Do we, as an adult webmaster community, oppose supporting adult versions of YouTube?

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

free porn = free porn = free porn

I couldn't have said it better.

Greenie was picking a fight with me over on another thread, but I don't really understand what the big deal is.

I have a "youtube style" site (www.snizzshare.com) - the video upload is closed. Every video that is posted link to the corresponding sponsor.

Snizzshare has 294 video clips on it at this point.

Link-o-rama has 24502 links out. If 20000 are to free sites, times say an average of 10 videos per site, then we are looking at 200,000 free porn clips online...the only thing that is different is the presentation.

I don't see what the big deal is.

Linklists and TGP were cutting edge 5 years ago. Now surfers want Web 2.0. You gotta keep with times or get left behind.

That's my 2 cents on this.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...Greenie was picking a fight with me over on another thread, but I don't really understand what the big deal is...

I just found it really strange that a major Link List owner would not only support tube sites, but build one himself. But, I guess you stopped being a Link List owner & started being a Program Owner a long time ago. Sad.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...Link-o-rama has 24502 links out. If 20000 are to free sites, times say an average of 10 videos per site, then we are looking at 200,000 free porn clips online...the only thing that is different is the presentation...

Well, I'm glad you know how many free sites I have as well as how many of them have movies, because I don't know that data. Thanks for posting your guesses about what's on MY site

(edit - I just looked: there's just over 23,000 free sites listed - that's a FACT. There's just over 8400 movie sites listed with 4-12 movies per site - probably an avg of 8/site - or 130,000 less than your guess)

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I just found it really strange that a major Link List owner would not only support tube sites, but build one himself.

FYI: First, I shouldn't say that I support "tube sites" as you define them. I don't.

Shame on you for using your admin powers to post on the thread who voted how. If the goverment was so willy nilly with their voter information as you are, even less people would come out to vote.

Looking back I would have voted a flat "NO" actually.

If a "tube" site is a site that posts online a shitload of free content without giving the proper program credit or to leach traffic off someone elses content that is WRONG. That is where I stand there. We've sent plenty of publicly filed C&D's to these sites to prove it too!!!!!!!

That being said, I DIDN'T BUILD ONE MYSELF! Check your facts before you throw stones!

1. My upload is closed.
2. All of the sponsors get credit where credit is due.
3. Participation is by invite only.
4. The longest clip you will find anywhere on there is about 2 minutes, it non hardcore, and there are aren't many of them. Average clip is about 30 seconds - there are not hour long movies on that fucker!

Really, my site is a "fake tube" site.

Originally Posted by Greenie

But, I guess you stopped being a Link List owner & started being a Program Owner a long time ago. Sad.

That's news to me:

1. Did I shut any of my 3 links sites down? No.
2. Do I still take submissions daily for free? Yes.
3. Do I still pay to have a reviewer on staff to do reviews and correspond with webmasters on this board that want to be listed? Yes.
4. Do I add new categories to my linklist(s) based on the needs of submissions? Yes.

Just becasue I am not the "Johny Appleseed of free porn" doesn't mean I'm a sad case and besides where would the money for all these people owning linklists and submitting sites come from if it wasn't for us evil "program owners"?

Originally Posted by Greenie

Well, I'm glad you know how many free sites I have as well as how many of them have movies, because I don't know that data. Thanks for posting your guesses about what's on MY site

(edit - I just looked: there's just over 23,000 free sites listed - that's a FACT. There's just over 8400 movie sites listed with 4-12 movies per site - probably an avg of 8/site - or 130,000 less than your guess)

Whoops, excuse the fuck out of me. I arrived at my number by taking the total number of free listings (my guess was somewhere around 20,000) and multiplying it by 10 becasue each site might have that number of pieces of free content. I guess you got me on the photo technicality.

Whatever, it doesn't really matter. Now that I have the correct numbers, estimating on the low side:

8400 x 6 = 50400 free movies on LOR divided 316 Free Movies on snizzshare.com = 159 more times free porn online with LOR

How the fuck am I the bad guy? I just don't get it?

Come on Greenie? Let's face it. It is not 1998 anymore. Things must progress. We've both been doing this over 10 years now and in internet time that may as well be centuries.

Is Google bad becasue it killed Excite? Nope, just offered a better product.

Is Myspace bad becasue it killed Friendster? Is Greenguy and Jim bad beause it killed Adultnetsuprise (oh, that was a good one)?

No. They just offered a superiour product.

Better yet, is the internet bad becasue it killed magizine sales? I think everyone can agree it's been good for all of us.

Right as we piss away on this board there is generations of potential adult customers are turning of age that grew up on Web 2.0 platforms like youtube and myspace. They are not going to crawl their way through link-dumps and warning pages like their parents did. They are going to go with something they know and the more it looks like something they are already familiar with the more they will like the site.

At the end of the day, all you are really rallying against is the design of my site, becasue what I am doing isn't anything we both haven't been doing for years:

Putting free porn online.

Things change fast in this game. You can stand back and be bitter that your business model may be becoming obsolete or you can try to keep up with times. Either way those that stay tied to the tracks of Internet circa 2001 will get run over by a train...

It's called progress!