If You Were Inventing the Link List Today...

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Simon

...you monetize it somehow...

That's easy, just include a fair amount of your own links within the mix. I've been making a comfortable living doing just exactly that for some time now, but with a TGP instead of a Link List.

[Bill]

I have never seen a person put up a link to a tube site or a tube site page. Do you folks see a lot of that kind of thing? care to show examples?

I'm unconvinced that tube supremacy is caused by people posting links to tube sites, or any natural linking. Is that what you folks think causes it?

Embeds maybe. I've seen some blogs using embeds.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Bill

I have never seen a person put up a link to a tube site or a tube site page. Do you folks see a lot of that kind of thing? care to show examples?

I'm unconvinced that tube supremacy is caused by people posting links to tube sites, or any natural linking. Is that what you folks think causes it?

Embeds maybe. I've seen some blogs using embeds.

It's the embedded clips that are responsible for the high number of one-way back links to the large tube sites.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Toby

It's the embedded clips that are responsible for the high number of one-way back links to the large tube sites.

The math doesn't seem to fit - high numbers? Maybe.

It's not like everywhere I go I see blogs/splogs with embedded tube clips. I see a few, and they are less common all the time. Embeded sponsor clips are just as easy to use, and make more sense for the blog owner.

I was told the big tubes buy links on a mass scale, and maintain link-buying programs - dunno if it's true.

The most common explantion for tube domination I hear is that they fulfill google algrorithm specs for visitor stickiness and visit times, and direct access to content, rather than links to content, which google devalues. That and rumors of link buying.

I personally can't say I see much natural one-way linking, aside from teh embeds, and I don't see that many embeds. Maybe I'm not looking at the right places.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Bill

The math doesn't seem to fit - high numbers? Maybe.

Yes, high numbers of embeds. Remember, we're talking about "illegal" tubes for the most part, with long clips. Those are what are getting embedded.

How many pseudo tube sites are out there that are nothing more than scraped embedded clips from other tubes? I can think of several off the top of my head, a few of which used to be large TGPs.